Yellow Fever Vaccine is on B/O check in your state.
Heads up... do contact your travel clinic (total monopoly) and ask if they have the Yellow F. Vaccine .
Here in WA.State ,all clinics are OUT! and they told me maybe will be out for a full year... So plan accordantly .
I believe is cause the egg crisis in Europe. and apparently is require to enter Kenya.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/03/eggs-removed-from-european-shelves-over-toxicity-fears-fipronil
Good Luck!
Here in WA.State ,all clinics are OUT! and they told me maybe will be out for a full year... So plan accordantly .
I believe is cause the egg crisis in Europe. and apparently is require to enter Kenya.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/03/eggs-removed-from-european-shelves-over-toxicity-fears-fipronil
Good Luck!
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I'll keep reading, did not see anything ... with an specific solution or alternative. But it is a concern because they don't want to give it up to 4-6 weeks prior to trip, and if the cannot get it...? than the Apocalipse....:)))
Who do you mean by 'They?' Yellow fever vaccine can be given any time and now is deemed to last for a lifetime of protection, not just the ten years that it was supposed to last until recently. If you can find the vaccine, get it as soon as you can. It can only be found at licensed Yellow fever vaccine approved clinics anyway. Consult your local Travel Health.
To find clinics in the US, try the web page for US CDC ("Centers for Disease Control") at
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/page/search-for-stamaril-clinics
Per that page - "Because of a total depletion of YF-Vax until mid-2018, the manufacturer (Sanofi Pasteur) has worked with the CDC to make an alternative yellow fever vaccine, Stamaril, available at select locations until YF-Vax supply returns in mid-2018".
- Redwood -
I was told that the sudden shortage of Yellow Fever vaccine occurred when Sanofi's warehouse lost climactic control and their entire inventory had to be discarded. (Sanofi also makes the stamaril substitute which is not approved by the FDA in the United States.) It takes time to re-grow the strains of vaccine. That is why some areas have been told that delays could endure for a year. (They may be referring to delays on Yellow Fever vaccine, but stamaril is also becoming scarce in some cities.)
Redwood - Thank you so much.... at least something is being done about it.
Thanks everyone.
Can't read the International Vac Cert, seems to say under manufacturer, Scuofi Pasteur M5176IV. Had to sign a waiver that said it was a "clinical trial", and imported from the UK, I believe, because it wasn't formally approved in the U.S., although has been used for years in Europe.
@ Costco for $150.00 Vac.- Consult . Everything
Done.
mel0849. Good to see you got your YF shot and looks like you had a really bad experience with your Travel Clinic. We live in Asheville, NC and have a Travel Clinic that is part of a large Infectious Disease Practice. We used them earlier this year before going to S. Africa and Zimbabwe and were quite pleased with their professionalism and services. Regarding YF, we were told that the side effects of the injection after age 60 tend to be more serious and were advised not to get the shot due to age and low risk countries. This is from the CDC website:
"Is yellow fever vaccine recommended for people 60 years and older who will be traveling to areas with risk for yellow fever?
People aged ≥60 years may be at increased risk for serious adverse events (serious disease or, very rarely, death) following vaccination, compared with younger persons. This is particularly true if they are receiving their first yellow fever vaccination. Travelers aged ≥60 years should discuss with their healthcare provider the risks and benefits of the vaccine given their travel plans. In addition to considering the vaccine, travelers to endemic areas should protect themselves from yellow fever and other vector-borne diseases. Preventive measures include wearing clothes with long sleeves and long pants and using an effective insect repellent such as those with DEET, picaridin, IR3535, or oil of lemon eucalyptus."
The bottom line is to discuss this with a healthcare professional and reach a decision that is right for you.
I also read that persons coming from the US did not have to have the vaccine. We didn't get the vaccine.
Now I am feeling very nervous about being turned away!
We are leaving Jan 23 for the Jan 27 trip to Tanzania and Kenya.
Any comments? Please advise.
Also, from what I have read, the "risks" of the vaccine are known and it is also known who may be affected- those with certain conditions and health issues ((anti-immune system problems, reaction to egg-based vaccines, etc. which also happen affect people of certain ages- very young and old). There may be some rare exceptions, but from everything I read, it is not a random thing and someone who knows your condition/history (your doctor/travel doctor) should be fairly certain whether you should avoid this vaccine- it is not a hard and fast "over the age of . . ." issue.
From our experience there are a fair number of doctors who travel with Tauck, yet none have ever weighed in on this topic. Maybe they don't frequent the forums. I'm sure they could say something on the topic that wouldn't be a violation or result in legal action.
2. Today, we got our hepatitis A and typhoid vaccinations as recommended by CDC at our county health department.
3. That office confirmed the shortage of yellow fever vaccine which is expected to continue until mid-summer. We learned that Stamaril, a satisfactory substitute is available, but the closest places we can get it are Kansas City, Oklahoma City or Tulsa. It is not available in Wichita. We made an appointment to drive 230 miles to Kansas City next week to get it from Passport Health, who will issue the yellow card when the vaccine is administered.
I hope people on our tour don't run in to problems.
I ADVISED THEM WE WILL LEAVE USA LANDING TANZANIA STAY 7 DAYS AND THEN TRAVEL INTO KENYA. I ASKED THE DIRECT QUESTION AND ASKED FOR A DEFINITIVE ANSWER
HERE IT IS
Commerce Kenya Embassy <commerce@kenyaembassydc.org>
To:
F. michael Hoffman
Feb 22 at 3:37 PM
It is not required.
Commerce Department
Kenya Embassy, Washington DC
2249 R Street, NW
Washington, DC 20008
Tel. (202) 387-6101
Fax. (202) 462-3829
http://www.kenyaembassydc.org
Facebook: Kenya Embassy, Washington D.C.
Twitter: @Kenyaembassy DC
IF NOT GOING FROM USA, CHECK YOUR COUNTRY HEALTH SERVICE TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT LISTED AS A COUNTRY WITH AN ENDEMIC FOR YELLOW FEVER
2. The person who checks your docs is not going to be the person in the Kenya Embassy.
3. We were asked for ‘proof’ upon arrival, but the info we had before departure said it was not required.
4. Do what you think is best. (;-)
Me, I don’t want to get Yellow fever. I don’t want to be sent home at my expense. I don’t want to risk getting a shot from someone in a third world country. That’s what each person has to decide.
Well said. Ditto!!!
MAY I ASK IF THEY HAD THE SHOT AND CERTIFICATE WITH THEM AND WOULD THEY HAVE BE DENIED ENTRY TO T OR K . IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY TRAVELERS WITH THEM DENIED ENTRY THAT DID NOT HAVE THE CERTIFICATE
No one on our tour was denied entry. You'll need to go back through the K&T forum archives, but I believe, and I may be wrong, there have been at least a few reports of shot cards being examined for yellow fever inoculation upon entry into Kenya or Tanzania, though I also believe all/most had the YF inoculations. But I also believe you'll find at least one report of someone entering one of those countries who had to get a shot at the border- though I don't know where you would get a shot there. I know I am talking about a different tour and different countries, but when I was researching the Botswana, South Africa, Zambia tour, where I will be landing in Victoria Falls, Zimbabwe instead of Livingstone, Zambia, I ran across a travel blog where the writer and a friend who were going to/from(?) Zimbabwe/Zambia had to get shots at a local clinic near the border.
The bottom line is you are taking an unnecessary chance of ruining the trip of a lifetime, not to mention wasting a lot of money, if you are denied entry because you did not get the shot or if you have a medical condition that precludes it and don't have documentation acceptable at the border. Again, that means you should see a certified travel doctor. I have experienced and observed similar situations in other third world countries (a distinction whose impact should not be underestimated!) Just because the US State Department, country government or embassy website, etc.. etc. official policy says one thing, it doesn't mean it will be followed or followed correctly at the low level. Also, as the State Dept says, the country policy can change and change quickly (overnight if there is an outbreak). There is often no arguing or trying to reason with some of these employees- you do it their way, or you don't do it at all. When has anyone convinced a TSA agent that it is ok to take something on a plane that he doesn't "think" is allowed, especially when there are 50 impatient people in line behind you! When you try to challenge them or their policy by saying, "It says (on the U.S. State Department, their country's website, etc.) that (this shot) is not required." His response could easily be, "Mr. American Tourist, I don't work for your State Department. You are in my country now, at my post. I'm in charge and I decide who can enter."
(fyi, using all caps is considered bad form on most public forums/billboards- it is the text equivalent of shouting.)
Obviously this is the first time you are visiting a country that requires a yellow fever shot, but there are many more. I suggest that if you are not comfortable that you either restrict your travel to safer countries or stay in the US. People on the forum can only offer what they have witnessed and like I said, only a few of the thousands who travel with Tauck use the forum or even know it exists.
Read the extensive proper research on the risks of the Yellow fever vaccine yet again and see that the risks are minute providing you do not have unknown underlying health problems that only you and your Dr know about. Then see a travel D. Our own family Dr is pretty useless when it comes to travel advice, we usually tell him what we need for our Malaria meds for example and he just writes us the script.
Please don't try to get the answer from us that you do not need a yellow fever shot because you do.
There are places (and people) in Africa where the local gatekeeper uses the lack of proof of vaccination as a way to extract a bribe. These people are low on the financial totem pole, but they have "the power" temporarily to make your visit unpleasant. In the Tauck group, the TD typically handles these individuals. On your own is where issues could arise -- e.g., going over to Zimbabwe while staying at the hotel in Zambia.
Please read the debate and make your own decision as there can be no definitive answer for everybody. No matter what the official consulate answer may be, the confrontation could happen locally and travelers should be ready to cope with them.
Yup!